@Dusklicious said in Tank Main's 3.3 Tank Tier List:

That's not just a 5k shield you immediately get from using the ability, but Siege Engine I agree is a very strong card as well. I personally don't really use it in non-shield builds because a hitscan can still fairly easily just shoot above the shield and still hit you. But in shield builds, yeah rank 4 Siege Engine is an absolute necessity.

I play a shield build yes. I tried Battering Ram after I saw an Ash guide video and I see the benefits, but I finally returned to the shield. One has to hit two enemies to get the full shield CD reset, yes. But Siege Engine also stacks and procs on shields/deployables so this is doable with good timing to completely reset the shield.

Not necessarily. Khan can grab Ash out of her dash, I've seen it done before quite a lot and I've done it myself a few times.

This is a bug though. I double checked the wiki and shoulder bash Can't be affected by Knockbacks for the duration and Khan's grab is listed as Knockback. If Khan approaches and Ash rams him (or flees) he can't grab her. Even if he throws her, with Battering Ram and resilience it should be no problem to escape.

Inara's problem at the moment, the way I see it, is that she depends on her healer more than other point tank options.

Inara has Stone Bulwark. It's a 875 heal. Not nearly as much as Ash or Terminus can get but very reliable.

Pretty much. Though I would also say that Fern's shield is a bit better than Ash's is if she doesn't run Fortress Breaker and instead opts for Battering Ram or Slug Shot.

Nah. If Nando would have Ash's shield he'd be much stronger, even with the flimsy one. His shield has a few situation where it is useful while Ash's shield is always useful. The more I played Nando, before he got nerfed, the less I used his shield.

You play her more as off tank than point tank. As off-tank the crippling warder is a must. Btw. Grohk is using a Totem while Inara is using a "warder".

Cards added. They still have no names, and most of these seem pretty standard to me. Especially considering most of the ideas are already in others kits.

@DaddyOoker said in Tips to improve at playing frontline:

@Dusklicious

You don't need to be good at it. What's the saying? "Those who can't do teach".

A general guide should be easy enough. Being unpredictable, target prioritization, survival that type of stuff. At least half of flankers problems is going after the wrong targets.

The issue is many of the flankers require different styles because of their mobility differences so going in depth won't work well. A general damage guide would also have this issue.

Maybe you could create two sections - one for higher mobility (Evie/Maeve) vs the more damage style (Skye/Koga).

PS: No, I'm not gonna do it

I don't play flanks pretty much at all though, so what insight could I possibly offer, considering I have little knowledge of how to play the role? It would make more sense for somebody who actually plays flanks and can do it reasonably well to do the guide for that role. Even Damage champions are iffy for me to an extent considering that Damage kind of encompasses a variety of different types of champions, some of which I have no idea how to play properly (Blasters).

@a_a said in Dusklicious' Suggestions for Every Front Line Talent:

@Dusklicious 75% DR is perfect IMO

Now that I think about it, 50% DR on that talent alone would be rather stupid considering it doesn't last as long as Raum's and Raum's has 75%.

@a_a
I read it, that's why I specify your words. I meant no offence.
Also, I do believe you meant replace Raum with him, since they have Raum, not this champ

@JoeTheMoonwalker said in Apoc, The Skeleton King:

@Dusklicious
Now it's a bit better, than it was, since you can't endlessly lay on enemies with impenetrable shield. Also, ranged potential is just fine.

He really needed a way to poke enemies at range. He had no range in his kit whatsoever. Not to mention an invulnerable shield is just a bad idea anyways. It's a lot easier to balance the way it is now, not to mention it is more unique, because that makes it the only shield in the game that actually can actively do damage to an opponent.

@Rauyne I might didn't make it clear, but one of Ruckus' downsides is lack of mobility. I'm not certain, which way it's better to change Ruckus, but the statement is the same: he needs changes. The one thing I'm thinking of is old Emitter's slow effect. It might be useful to negate lack of mobility as well as giving Ruckus more utility during mass fights. Otherwise with off-tanks like Khan, Makoa or Atlas who needs a bulky damage dealer with no special additions?

@Dusklicious Maybe, maybe not, I'm not big on numbers, though I must note, that without sentry gun his damage output is relativly low (orbs are pretty quick and pass standing enemy faster, than in 1s) and it cannot be quickly replaced if destroyed, since its cooldown similar to Io's Luna (goes on full CD only after being destroyed, the same with shield generator). Although, no escape ability, pretty easy target, huh(no)? Still, I've added some edits.

Basically, I tried to come up with something like TF2 engineer, with most of his power being in his sentry gun and dispencer (although, teleporter, but with horse mechanic and removed Dredge's talent I don't think we need one). I think I came pretty close to the idea with the restriction of building being destroyed if you die (That means you always sacrifice your buildings in Paladins, rather then get yourself killed in order of your buildings survival in TF2), what do you think?

Very solid concept, though it seems a lititle underpowered in some regards. It lacks any real mobility and doesn't have all too much in the way of self-sustain. Though the strength of the Souls especially with 4 out at once (which seems like it would be easy enough with the Convert talent) is quite high, and his ultimate sounds potentially really crazy as well.

Definitely also welcome this sort of high skill tank as well.

Have to say, I kind of like this idea.

Yes it was part of the old Forums.
Dimitri was a concept before.... Khan...
Spent a bit of time on this one trying to make it work in game without any major complications.

Dimitri is an area supressor who uses strong low-mid range dps, as well as cripple and slow soft CC skill shot moves to lock foes out of escaping at range, keeping foes out in the open and exposed to fire for as long as possible. His powerful CC slow move is tied to his mobility tool, thus creating an all or nothing strategy if used this way.

Has a weak 4k dome shield to briefly hold back damage from every angle and get a window for healing, has to care for a deployable inside the shield as it is the key reducing the cooldown of the shield, so cqc fights inside a dome in the open are not recommended unless foes are kept out of the shield. The shield bides time to activate and deploy his mobility or lock down moves, or gain a decaut window to get maximum sustain healing from Berzerk.

His mobility tool is fairly easy to read as it describes to all players who can see it where he will travel before he gets opts to go there, it can be canceled by other players by shoving Dimitri out of range or out of line of sight of his hook. It can also be hindered by hard CC effects such as stuns, silences and fears although they will not brake the mobility cable unless the character is pulled out of line of sight or the duration of the mobility expires.

His ULT Berzerk is a Damage Reversal / Self Sustain endurance move designed to eat and throw back firepower for a brief time. Healing the player passively in order eat more damage and synergize with healing mechanics, combine with shield healing for a moment of powerful self recovery. As you take damage you gain energy to use for a powerful lazer shot or instant uncauterizable self recovery.