Nerfing


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    @Hexadermia the problem is I've hidden behind things and still gotten killed by his ult.
    But that still doesn't bring up the fact that he comes back at full health.
    Even if people manage to get away (some cannot, like Vivian) they still now have to deal 4k damage to a monster of a champion who deals a crapton of damage.
    It'd be a hella complicated nerf, and thankfully I now main Io so I can usually get away quickly, but it's still annoying should I decide to play Vivian again.


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    1. Term ult is fine at the moment
    2. I agree with the Vivian one
    3. Viktor's ult is fine as well
    4. Invisibility gets countered really easily by illuminate
    5. Talus isn't the fastest champ, generally Maeve is. Talus seems fine to me.
    6. Cauterize.

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    @coolkettle read all the replies on this thread before commenting

    Btw: Talus is faster than Maeve, go against them both in one match and you'll see


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    @Okamikai30 Maeve has a card 50% bonus MS out of combat. That alone gives her more speed than Talus as far as I know, and she has like 3 or 4 more MS cards. Plus she can reset her cooldowns of both her movement abilities and has MS in her ability. Talus, on the other hand only has a horizontal dash, and the card that gives him more MS with the rune active gives only around 40% MS to him.
    Terminus' ult isn't overpowered, all you need is enough game sense to know that you have to get away from him when he has his ult up. Champions that don't have movement abilities live Vivian shouldn't even be in the explosion area in the first place, they should be a bit further and up high (depends on the map of course) because otherwise they're an easy target for everybody.


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    Only thing I agree with is Vivian's ult not charging.

    The rest are either fine, or easy to counter.

    Have you ever seen Terminus get Reversal'd after ulting? You'll laugh..


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    @coolkettle you do realize how Terminus attacks right?


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    @CMS his ult is overpowered though?????
    Like very few champions can survive it, and as far as I can tell there's no audible clue of when he's activated it.
    The only clue I've ever noticed is when he dies there's a purple circle above his body, but if he's low and there are other people around, a lot of those people won't be looking at Terminus, and considering it's insane range, it's hard to avoid if you notice last minute.


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    It's becoming insanely clear that when people adore a champion, they refuse to acknowledge they're OP-ness.
    Or people just straight up cannot read


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    @Okamikai30 I don't ever play Terminus, we're just all reasonable here and have played the game a lot. We know about Terminus, we know what to do when he ults, we know when he will ult and why and what can stop it.

    Don't start throwing a tantrum because people are forming a level-headed debate.
    You can take people's opinions as they come and discuss it in a reasonable way, or you can continue and I'll deem it as off-topic. It's up to you.


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    @Okamikai30 I see how it is. You refuse to take in any reasoning because it disagrees with what you're saying and yet you accuse others of that. How hypocrytic.


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    @CMS you're not the problem my guy, Terminus's ult I overpowered, just because you've found ways to work around it doesn't mean it's not overpowered.


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    @coolkettle actually, if you had properly read all the comments in this thread, you would have realizes that the points you've made aren't what's being discussed and have no place in this discussion.
    I suggest you go back, read ALL the comments then proceed to reread your comments and realize that you are talking about things that haven't got a thing to do with what I'm speaking of


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    i am not going to repeat myself when someone brings up a point that has been talked about already.
    If they add into the point (ex. "Hiding behind a pillar saves you from Terminus's ult) that's a different story, however repetition of a point and not adding to it will not be responded to with anything except :"read all the comments"


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    Terminus' ult is easy to get away from if you have mobility since his wind-up time is longer (being 2.5s). Champions like Vivian and Tyra who don't have mobility really shouldn't be near him when his orb is purple and floating above his corpse unless there is definite coverage for you to quickly hide behind. I will say, though, that the crates near the point on Fish Market are not reliable coverage, I learned that the hard way...
    Also, with Vivian, doesn't her shield help her at least survive the blast if you can't get away? I don't play her so I wouldn't know, just curious.

    That being said, I hardly see any deaths from a Terminus ult; there have been some in my games, but are few and far between. It seems OP, but with how long the wind-up time is and the fact that mobility pretty much counters it, it's fine. Besides, only five champions don't have mobility (Skye, Strix, Torvald, Trya, and Vivian) and that's only 11.9% of the roster.

    @Okamikai30 said in Nerfing:

    Even if people manage to get away (some cannot, like Vivian) they still now have to deal 4k damage to a monster of a champion who deals a crapton of damage.

    His melee, and the only real melee champ. If you're far enough away, you won't have to worry about his damage. And if we're talking about after he's ulted, everyone is already far enough away to be safe. 1v5 or 1v4s don't last long. I can't count how many times I've seen my Terminus ult alone on point only to die seconds later. Or get killed instantly by an ulting Drogoz. His ultimate mostly allows for him to stay with his team or continue to contest if he siphons afterwards.

    @Okamikai30 said in Nerfing:

    @Hexadermia the problem is I've hidden behind things and still gotten killed by his ult.

    Then that's probably a bug and Terminus is known for them. He has a lot of issues. It doesn't warrant a nerf to him.

    @Okamikai30 said in Nerfing:

    Like very few champions can survive it, and as far as I can tell there's no audible clue of when he's activated it.
    The only clue I've ever noticed is when he dies there's a purple circle above his body

    There is an audible cue, he screams either "Once more I arise!" or "Let me die, no, NOOOO!" If you don't hear it, it's a sound bug.

    but if he's low and there are other people around, a lot of those people won't be looking at Terminus, and considering it's insane range, it's hard to avoid if you notice last minute.

    No offense to you, but who exactly are you playing with? They sound like their new to the game and not paying attention. That's a fault on your teammates if they're not aware of their surroundings.


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    @BaeWulf95 i get fitted with a crapton of noobs.
    It's SUPER infuriating.
    Thank you for the information on his audible warning, and the bugs. Definitely changes my viewpoint to know that he's kinda buggy so the problems I'm having are bugs and not anything else.
    I rarely go against him, but if I am a Vivian, by the time i kill him, I've already used my sheild (to try and shoot him while surviving his teammates shooting me).

    Anytime i do go against him, it always seems that without fail he aims for me first thing.

    As for being away from him, he has a jump ability and, as said above, Terminus always guns for me. I'm not 100% sure if that's because I manage to get away and am the only one alive, or if that's because im a healer/a Vivian.

    That's just what i've noticed when going against him.
    He isn't annoying enough for me to beg for a nerf (ive only talked about him a lot here due to him being brought up constantly)
    Talus and Vivian are really the main ones who im begging to get nerfed.

    (Ive played a couple games since the original post and i have noticed that viktor's ult cant follow you anymore? That could be because im going against bad players but Viktor seems to have been lightly nerfed already)


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    That is true, he does have his slam dunk, lol. And I believe Terminus is a direct counter to Vivian, that's why you may have a hard time with him and why Terminus' may go after you more as Vivian. Terminus is to Vivian as flanks are to snipers or cats to a newly found nest of eggs. Mmmm, easy and delicious.

    And I know about the noobs. I've had people completely ignore their six and get demolished by the flank I tried warning them about. But we all came from somewhere and we just gotta help each other when we can. 🙂


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    @BaeWulf95 I'm super fine with noobs
    It just makes it harder for me to get better.
    But alas, as said, gotta start somewhere



  • very interesting


  • PC

    Seeing the original post, I can definitely see why the OP was banned. I don't know how to interpret this other than to say it sounds like trolling to me.


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    Please don't necro old threads.

    Locked.


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