Enough with the childlike champions



  • First Maeve, now Io. Even Evie before that. It's honestly pretty disgusting especially when you see what the fanbase does with these characters. What's the appeal? Why not just make adult females? I'm so sad that HiRez adopts these sorts of business practices, but then again Blizzard did the same thing with D.Va and Tracer (I honestly can't say which corporation is better or worse, as Io is far more sexualized than either of those two OW characters). I like Cassie. Cassie is a great design. She's beautiful, charismatic, and a powerful, fun, adult character. Io and Maeve feel immature and inappropriate for an adult themed videogame. Evie also feels out of place, like a kindergartner or something. I don't want to play as a child and it's somewhat disturbing seeing the amount of sexual attention characters like Maeve generate in the fanbase when they have the appearance of a 15 year old at best.


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    @taikonaut

    maeve is 19, she looks like a kid cause she's a tigron that's all

    Io is a godess hundreds of years old

    evie I think she's 19 too, and she looks like a teenager not a kid

    some people love cuties like Io, and not in a sexual way, if you see it as a sexual problem then maybe you are the problem thinking such things, anyway when you see how teenagers dress in real life... it's not that far from the game's skins, the base champions however aren't sexualized at all
    yeah skin's are kinda fan service (also koga and nando for exemple) but I don't see the problem with that, it's not a game made for 13 yo kids

    you don't want to play as a child, well okay, but I don't want to play as a lizard or as a 50 yo man, still I play both drogoz and atlas, it doesn't bother me as I don't even see how they look since it's a fps

    anyway Io doesn't have any sexually attractive skin or whatever, when you compare to Seris/bk skin's voice line lmao

    also now thunderbrush is the lead artist so skins won't be made the same as before

    personally it's just making me laugh when I hear some overexaggerated voice lines or skin



  • Well there's been plenty of porn made of Io already. I actually compared her proportions to that of a 5th grader and she actually might have the proportions of a 4th grader or something cuz her head and eyes are just gigantic, plus obviously she has boobs on top of that so it's just ridiculous. So she's basically a 4th grader with boobs, it's pretty dumb. I also have to laugh at Seris being a "sexy" skin when she doesn't even have eyes, I mean HiRez really make some questionable design choices, not to sound ableist or cruel but eyes are probably more important for me in terms of female attractivity than hip bones or whatever roflcopter, that said at least they haven't put in a grandmother character like Ana yet, nobody wants to see that

    As for Koga and Nando those are the most boring skins ever, literally barely distinguishable from eachother, just a naked guy in swim trunks, I have no idea who thinks this is okay graphic design.



  • Evie, Maeve, and Io are all adults. The only reason you would see them as anything other, is if you truly wanted to. The only true child-like Champion is Moji. Not to mention, Paladins is a Fantasy realm. So, you can compare them to Hobbits or Gnomes which are short statured even as Adults.



  • @Rauyne said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    Evie, Maeve, and Io are all adults. The only reason you would see them as anything other, is if you truly wanted to. The only true child-like Champion is Moji. Not to mention, Paladins is a Fantasy realm. So, you can compare them to Hobbits or Gnomes which are short statured even as Adults.

    Don't be ridiculous. They have the proportions of children, boobs aside. Giant heads, short stature.



  • @taikonaut

    Fantasy realm. Common logic does not apply. You're only perceiving them as kids because you want to and are narrow minded in the fact that you're using real life knowledge to perceive a made up fantasy world while not acknowledging that there are many different races in this fantasy realm that can look young in nature as adults.



  • @Rauyne said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    @taikonaut

    Fantasy realm. Common logic does not apply. You're only perceiving them as kids because you want to and are narrow minded in the fact that you're using real life knowledge to perceive a made up fantasy world while not acknowledging that there are many different races in this fantasy realm that can look young in nature as adults.

    So you're saying they look "young" (I would say childlike), while in fact being sexually mature?



  • @taikonaut

    They are young...young adults. Lore wise Each one of them are above the age of 18. Io is one of the oldest champions in the Lore. You are viewing them as child-like die to their personalities.



  • @Rauyne said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    @taikonaut

    They are young...young adults. Lore wise Each one of them are above the age of 18. Io is one of the oldest champions in the Lore. You are viewing them as child-like die to their personalities.

    Well I'm viewing them as childlike due to their body proportions. They are as short as children. They have huge heads with big, childlike eyes. They were clearly designed to look childlike. Compare them to Cassie, Lian, Tyra, Vivian, and Kinessa who were designed to look like adults. Skye occupies an uncomfortable middle ground.


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  • @taikonaut

    As stated before, it's because of narrow mindedness that you view then that way. It is a Fantasy Realn, this isn't a modern or sci-fi shooter..It's a Fantasy Realm this means made up.

    @ShogunPukin

    Yes..yes we do.



  • @Rauyne said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    @taikonaut

    As stated before, it's because of narrow mindedness that you view then that way. It is a Fantasy Realn, this isn't a modern or sci-fi shooter..It's a Fantasy Realm this means made up.

    @ShogunPukin

    Yes..yes we do.

    How am I being narrowminded? I'm just pointing out that they have the appearance of children, in some cases children with boobs.



  • @taikonaut

    And that is where the narrow mindedness is coming from. You see them as nothing but children instead of delving into the Fantasy Realm and seeing them as a different race which is smaller in stafure.


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    @taikonaut

    Io was designed to look cute, that's why she has big eyes, she's a kitsune, obviously she was inspired by japanese-like drawing style

    maeve is a young adult so is evie, honestly none of them have child-like attitude

    if you can't understand fantasy...nothing we can say will change your mind, I mean maeve is 19, at 19 most girls have grown up boobs

    honestly I don't see the problem really, some skins are appealing yes, some skins have very sexually themed voice packs yes (but it's laughable since it's exaggerated) but if some people want to make porn or whatever out of these characters, well it's their problem not mine

    people make porn out of way worse than this, you can turn anything into porn nowadays, it doesn't reflect the original character, these characters were designed nicely and without anything related to porn, so there's no problem at all, no champ is naked or whatever



  • @Rauyne said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    @taikonaut

    And that is where the narrow mindedness is coming from. You see them as nothing but children instead of delving into the Fantasy Realm and seeing them as a different race which is smaller in stafure.

    Well, I'm not saying they are children, I'm saying they're childlike. They look like children. That's all I'm saying. I don't understand why anyone would want people that look like children in their shooter games, I mean after all children are pretty much adults but worse.

    @TangAce said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    @taikonaut

    Io was designed to look cute, that's why she has big eyes, she's a kitsune, obviously she was inspired by japanese-like drawing style

    maeve is a young adult so is evie, honestly none of them have child-like attitude

    if you can't understand fantasy...nothing we can say will change your mind, I mean maeve is 19, at 19 most girls have grown up boobs

    honestly I don't see the problem really, some skins are appealing yes, some skins have very sexually themed voice packs yes (but it's laughable since it's exaggerated) but if some people want to make porn or whatever out of these characters, well it's their problem not mine

    people make porn out of way worse than this, you can turn anything into porn nowadays, it doesn't reflect the original character, these characters were designed nicely and without anything related to porn, so there's no problem at all, no champ is naked or whatever

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    I don't know what to tell you. These characters were clearly designed to have childlike attributes. Compare them to adult champions like Cassie. There's clearly a difference.


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    @taikonaut

    and? there are tons of game with child characters, tons of games where you play as a child, I don't understand the problem
    you don't like to play as a child, then don't, some people won't want to play as a walking bomb, EM can't just make a game fitting everyone's liking

    if there were issues about sexuality and children, then okay, but all champions (beside moji I think) are adults



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  • I WANT A GNOME IN A DROIDTIKA.

    I WANT A ROBOT THE AGE OF 3 WITH A FULLY DEVELOPED PSYCHE.

    I WANT A KID WITH A SLING SHOT AND A BOOMERANG WHO TURNS INTO A SPIRIT GUARDIAN WITH A BOW AND A GLAVE.

    Look there is nothing wrong with childish characters... but when they some jank elements in their kit and a real half assed back story you end up with talus and moji.

    Trust me when I say there is something brutal about crushing people with a cold hearted bitch of a witch.

    But the whole underlying murderous intent was replaced with the more friendly childish characters you can have issue with.

    Personally I think sha lin is more of a flank, so throw him in there once they restore his stealth prowess a bit...



  • @AYYDIMITRI said in Enough with the childlike champions:

    I WANT A GNOME IN A DROIDTIKA.

    I WANT A ROBOT THE AGE OF 3 WITH A FULLY DEVELOPED PSYCHE.

    I WANT A KID WITH A SLING SHOT AND A BOOMERANG WHO TURNS INTO A SPIRIT GUARDIAN WITH A BOW AND A GLAVE.

    Look there is nothing wrong with childish characters... but when they some jank elements in their kit and a real half assed back story you end up with talus and moji.

    Trust me when I say there is something brutal about crushing people with a cold hearted bitch of a witch.

    But the whole underlying murderous intent was replaced with the more friendly childish characters you can have issue with.

    Personally I think sha lin is more of a flank, so throw him in there once they restore his stealth prowess a bit...

    IDK I don't really feel comfortable playing Evie or Maeve either. They're pretty much personified by their color scheme, baby blue and pastel pink. Very childish colors tbh. They don't have a lot of personality compared to Cassie's upbeat relentless optimism or even Lian's cold snottiness (which I don't think is a good character either, after all who wants to play a snotty champion?)


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