New VGS



  • @thewickedpearl another sad thought is the removal of laughing and 'quiet' and jokes, that stuff made the game so much more immersive and now it's more bland and theres less creative communication between players 😞



  • @thewickedpearl said in New VGS:

    @thewickedpearl another sad thought is the removal of laughing and 'quiet' and jokes, that stuff made the game so much more immersive and now it's more bland and theres less creative communication between players 😞

    But did the jokes help with stategy and planning?

    Jokes are fine to alleviate tension, but do they provide to more consistant consecutive wins? "Jokes" can be an annoyance or distraction [spam].

    Again, the old VGS will not mean anything to players who join this game for the first time next week. For those who currently use VGS, how difficult is it to adapt to change? In real life, we are constantly adapting to change. Adapting should be easy as this is only a video game. Heck, if we have a good team, VGS, text or voice chat might not even be used as our teammates will understand their role within the team.

    If we want a joke, all we have to do is look at the people/teammates who don't know how to play the game, even after playing for a year or more. Now that's laughable.


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    New VGS... I hate it just like everyone else.

    The system is not only not benefitting new players as was the intention, but it's actually making it harder on veteran players used to the old system. Not only that, but it is missing commands AND STILL HAS THAT DUMB@$$ NEED HEALING COMMAND THAT EVERYONE WANTED GONE TO BEGIN WITH!

    I personally take kind of a liking to @Lukash369's idea of the wheel. I was initially worried reading that it would restrict everyone's commands to further down to just 12, but it keeps the other commands. I mean I still will kind of hate new VGS, but it makes the transition easier for everyone. Also, I will say, GET. RID. OF. NEED. HEALING.



  • @Conrad_Max said in New VGS:

    @thewickedpearl said in New VGS:

    @thewickedpearl another sad thought is the removal of laughing and 'quiet' and jokes, that stuff made the game so much more immersive and now it's more bland and theres less creative communication between players 😞

    But did the jokes help with stategy and planning?

    Jokes are fine to alleviate tension, but do they provide to more consistant consecutive wins? "Jokes" can be an annoyance or distraction [spam].

    Again, the old VGS will not mean anything to players who join this game for the first time next week. For those who currently use VGS, how difficult is it to adapt to change? In real life, we are constantly adapting to change. Adapting should be easy as this is only a video game. Heck, if we have a good team, VGS, text or voice chat might not even be used as our teammates will understand their role within the team.

    If we want a joke, all we have to do is look at the people/teammates who don't know how to play the game, even after playing for a year or more. Now that's laughable.

    Keep down-voting my comments, brothers and sisters. Let's see how things are regarding this "issue" one year from now (after you've quit, because of this, when others have joined).

    I'm proudly going for zero rep. T'ankz.



  • @Conrad_Max Cut the passive aggressiveness dude, but I gotta ggree to you though, people are a bit sarcastic with the jokes


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    @Conrad_Max said in New VGS:

    @thewickedpearl said in New VGS:

    @thewickedpearl another sad thought is the removal of laughing and 'quiet' and jokes, that stuff made the game so much more immersive and now it's more bland and theres less creative communication between players 😞

    But did the jokes help with stategy and planning?

    Jokes are fine to alleviate tension, but do they provide to more consistant consecutive wins? "Jokes" can be an annoyance or distraction [spam].

    Again, the old VGS will not mean anything to players who join this game for the first time next week. For those who currently use VGS, how difficult is it to adapt to change? In real life, we are constantly adapting to change. Adapting should be easy as this is only a video game. Heck, if we have a good team, VGS, text or voice chat might not even be used as our teammates will understand their role within the team.

    If we want a joke, all we have to do is look at the people/teammates who don't know how to play the game, even after playing for a year or more. Now that's laughable.

    I think this change didn’t disturb you because you play using voice chat (written in your signature), And most of the paladins players use VGS as a main way to communicate. And they are very disturbed with this change (includes me)



  • @Conrad_Max i get that, the one thing that actually feels like it's missing is the laugh. that at least, feels like it adds to the game, you're right about the jokes though.



  • the new vgs is ok and all but i was so used to the old one. can we atleast have an option to get the old commands back while players can keep this new one. I would really like to have the old key taps back so its easier for me. as in instead of vf you would do vvvg. having the old vgs as an option would really help me



  • First of all, the new VGS is efficient only for people who tryhard at this game. The people desperately wanting to win rather than have fun. I know Hi-Rez always tryhard to push esport scenes for their games and all, but should we really focus on making it more convenient for competitive players when the game is a constant buggy and broken mess?

    Second of all, the new system is very inconvenient for most players that have been playing for a long time. Sure, it is probably easier to grasp for newer players, but for us that took a long time to "master" the old VGS, it is pretty terrible to change it so radically, mostly when the new setting also removes a LOT of voice lines. Most of the time, the games I'm in are straight silent with the new VGS, and the one person trying to use the voice lines, well, they get the silent treatment in return, including from myself as I dunno why bothering learning the new system if it's not to have fun with it.

    Third of all, you lose absolutely nothing by giving an option in the settings to re-enable the old VGS. The competitive folks get their new shiny VGS that is not meant to mess around with, and the casuals get to keep their fun voice lines interactions, like the jokes, laughs and such. This is very little effort on the developers' end to do so and would solve the conflict far faster and more easily than anything else mentioned around.

    That is my opinion on the matter, as a person that stuck with the game through the hardships of releasing a "full game" without any updates just so it could be ported on the Switch ; as a person that bought almost every skin I could get my hands onto at the time ; as a person that got scammed out of a mount for reaching VIP 5 ; as a person who stuck through despite the addition of battle passes to top all the skins paid for in RNG lootboxes that, unlike Overwatch, are NOT rewarded to you for playing, nor allowing you to purchase those you want directly ; as a player that's been there since before Ying was even added to the game.

    Take it as you will, but it shows that people ARE dedicated to the game despite its many flaws, but if you take the fun out of the game, then why even play it? Just so tryhard work their asses off through tears, blood and salt just to have shiny frames or skins to brag about to other people to make them feel inferior to their competitive greatness? Don't make me laugh. You already removed that VGS line from us anyway.



  • The new vgs is ok at best. Maybe it's just my own opinion but I don't care for it much. Too many things are confusing to get to or you have to push the same button patterns for more than one option And can't choose which you want. It could use some improvement but in time I'm sure it will be easy to remember.



  • Could someone explain that why have changed the keywords?


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    @KicsitCsicska It’s EvilMojo, you know...



  • @methylbenzen said in New VGS:

    The new VGS killed the game. While before it seemed colorful and even playful at times, now everyone is simply silent. The game is not fun anymore. I want my Khan to be bale to scream that the burgers are ready, and my Jenos to say my planet need's me. It's like the champions lost their personality.

    I can just fully agree. I used VGS for funny comments and cheer at the victory/defeat. VEA, VER, VEG, VEW or VVGS (Dang rust-buckets and axe breaking tunnel wyrms). My favorite is Mad Scientist Pip's maniac laughter. Those funny lines made the matches colorful, especially since there are always new ones. US Khan for example and his hilarious comments. Or does someone remember when porn Seris was new? πŸ™‚

    Only ingame command I used is "group up". Maybe VBE or VA1-3 at start. It's hard to type VHH while fighting a flank.


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    @Demigod You are a genius!



  • @Memesis Which one was genius? XD



  • I can understand the overall goal of cutting the "bloat" out of the VGS system and removing commands that didn't apply to Paladins. However... I believe there should be a setting or something to make your text based VGS commands on PC mirror the SMITE commands that still exist within this system. The new system doesn't feel intuitive, but if you want new players to learn that, fine... But please make the same commands that SMITE uses available for those of us that want them. For instance, "VGGL" sounds like you're saying "Good Luck!" whereas, "VCQQ" sounds like you're telling your team to start crying (QQing) now because this match is already over. lol.



  • @LyuSapphire i agree. For people who only play to win, it might be better. But there is only a small fraction of those players in paladins. For everyone else who play paladins for the fun of it, the new VGS is a huge ugly that they want gone. Giving players the option to switch back to the old VGS seems like a good idea, as it would satisfy both parties. The competitive players can have their more tactic VGS, while the rest of us can have the good ol' one back.


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    @Lukash369 If only it was April 1st πŸ™‚

    I'll try it out later.

    Thanks for any impact you had in making this happen.



  • @Lukash369 Cool, but "Nice job!", "Please?", "Bye!" and the "I'll defend..." commands are not avilable πŸ˜›


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