Enough with Viktor - NERF



  • I honestly think it's silly that his bursts damage can to more damage than many other champions who are harder to use. I personally love to try different ways of playing. Ranked doesn not allow you to do so. Viktor is absolutely noob friendly and ok, I have nothing wrong with easier characters. But if it's easier then you can NOT give him more damage per second just pressing one button, than other champions who have to mix all their attacks, land them, and still be out damaged. It's simply unfair, unbalanced, wrong. And people who don't see it are totally blind. You must nerf burst damage and also ultimate recharge rate.



  • @GreenTheater You. are being silly... Its a little stong but no where close to broken.


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    @GreenTheater said in Enough with Viktor - NERF:

    I honestly think it's silly that his bursts damage can to more damage than many other champions who are harder to use. I personally love to try different ways of playing. Ranked doesn not allow you to do so. Viktor is absolutely noob friendly and ok, I have nothing wrong with easier characters. But if it's easier then you can NOT give him more damage per second just pressing one button, than other champions who have to mix all their attacks, land them, and still be out damaged. It's simply unfair, unbalanced, wrong. And people who don't see it are totally blind. You must nerf burst damage and also ultimate recharge rate.

    If I'm being honest, you're being downright delusional. If you want to look up broken in a dictionary I'm pretty sure you'll find Tiberius, Strix, and Cassie first. Oh and Maeve...

    How to counter a Vik 101: Pick a flank champion. Play them half-decently. Oh or you can also opt to play Strix or Tiberius. Neither of them is good for Vik either. Tib can easily burst him down, and Strix flatly outdeals him at most ranges...



  • @GreenTheater https://youtu.be/l8G7CvEaDVI

    There some viktor game play as you will see i did well but i had to be very careful.

    No way half these people would have been running right at a Cassie, Lian, Tiberus



  • I am not a big fan of sniper Viktor. Old style Viktor was more fun.



  • @Dusklicious you don't get the point. You don't have to tell me how to counter an OP character. That's the classic fanboy or '' I'm best cos I know how to counter '' guy. It doesn't work on me. I am comparing the class damage Viktor to other champions. Viktor is OP. He can charge his ultimate 3 times during a round and has OP bursts rifle damage. Don't tell me how to counter, I'm not asking that. I'm telling you that he is totally stronger than other damages. That's why he s picked 90% of the times. Of course I have to face paladins fanboys on Paladins forum, but you just can't accept the truth. And funny, they keep giving me bad reputation ahaha for speaking the truth! This is the world we live in. When you say come thing unconventional, you get attacked. I'm not surprised, but you should have shame on yourself.


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  • @Shadowpuppy I really wonder how many hi rez employees are disguised between forum players. For sure, many. And it's obvious. Why? Simple mathematic. I say something true, and it's true because 90% of ranked games contain Viktor. YET... YET I get down votes and you all have 1 up vote!! Ahahaahahah that's so funny. Really funny. I'm not saying YOU are one of hi rez. I'm just saying this is ridiculous, mathematics and statistics speak for itself, so it's obvious that something is wrong in this forum. Otherwise Viktor wouldn't be picked again 90% of times on ranked games. This is sad, very sad. But I laugh at how some people struggle to keep the marketing going.


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    @Shadowpuppy Viktor against Viktor doesn't really make a case either way. Also, you should be a bit nicer to your own teammates - at least takeout the unnecessary curses.. Just my 2c.

    @GreenTheater How do you arrive that Viktor is picked in 90% of ranked matches? Back this up with a source please.

    On topic, I agree that Viktor's ult charges too fast...



  • @Vaporized do I really need to prove it? Don't you play the game bro? Not speaking about master+ levels, and not even about silver- levels. But gold, platinum and diamond... If Viktor is not banned, he is selected 9 times out of 10. Play the game and you will see.

    Edit: and gold,Plat and diamond is where most active players are.


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    @GreenTheater said in Enough with Viktor - NERF:

    @Vaporized do I really need to prove it? Don't you play the game bro? Not speaking about master+ levels, and not even about silver- levels. But gold, platinum and diamond... If Viktor is not banned, he is selected 9 times out of 10. Play the game and you will see.

    Edit: and gold,Plat and diamond is where most active players are.

    I haven't played ranked since 3.1. He wasn't picked at all in those matches - In QP he isn't picked 90%. When you make a claim of 90% you need to be able to back that up. I've seen so many BS claims about MM and other things that simply aren't as true as people want you to believe. What's your IGN and I'll look myself to see how many Viktor's were in your matches.



  • @Vaporized my in game is the same as here, but I'm afraid you have to scroll down a bit because in these last days, I mostly happen to be the first pick, so I ban him. It would be great if you can see people I banned so you will have proof. Go on, and check it for yourself. Just don't check it for me only, pick any active player on that bracket rank and see. Viktor will appear almost always. And it's not people fault. It's the game s fault who doesn't do anything to make him at the level of other champions.


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    @GreenTheater Not going to spend a ton of time looking at everyone...

    Now that I know you're on console this might explain some of what's going on since the balance is different.

    Anyway, Your last 20 going backwards...

    1- No Viktor - not banned.
    2- No Viktor - not banned.
    3- Enemy Viktor.
    4- Viktor banned - throw out
    5- Viktor banned - throw out
    6- No Viktor - not banned.
    7- No Viktor - not banned.
    8- Enemy Viktor
    9- Viktor banned - throw out
    10- Ally Viktor
    11- Enemy Viktor
    12- Ally Viktor
    13- Enemy Viktor
    14- Viktor banned - throw out
    15- Enemy Viktor
    16- No Viktor - not banned.
    17- Enemy Viktor
    18- Ally Viktor
    19- Ally Viktor
    20- Ally Viktor

    I excluded the banned ones from the calc because you can't know if Viktor would have been picked.

    11 Viktors out of 16 possible - 68%. A fairly high pick rate, I'll give you that. I noticed you didn't always win when Viktor was on your team. If he is "OP" you should have won every time,right? We could say that Tiberius is overly picked looking at how often you picked him.



  • We got an official statistic site, which got updated to 3.2 it seems, and the most played damage champion on "all ranks" is - tadaaa - Viktor. Followd by Tyra and Vivian. Maybe we should call those the "Infamous Three". 🙂 Viktors winrate is low (47%) but his popularity is high.

    A closer look shows that Viktor is especially popular in Platin, Diamond and Masters. I have to admit I am surprised, I also hardly noticed Viktors in ranked, but they are there, sneaky but deadly, bursting us down.


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    @M3RC3N4RI0 I would expect a free champion to get heavily picked by those playing ranked at low account levels.

    Is it broken down by input method? What is his actual pick rate?



  • @Vaporized They don't have a pick rate unfortunately. They only have a "match count" from how many Viktor matches the statistic is made and Viktor has the highest match count.


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    @M3RC3N4RI0

    If there is a total match count we can create our own. What about the breakdown by input method?



  • @Vaporized said in Enough with Viktor - NERF:

    @M3RC3N4RI0

    If there is a total match count we can create our own. What about the breakdown by input method?

    It's Paladins Keyboard & Mouse Ranked Statistics if you mean that by input method.


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    @M3RC3N4RI0 said in Enough with Viktor - NERF:

    @Vaporized said in Enough with Viktor - NERF:

    @M3RC3N4RI0

    If there is a total match count we can create our own. What about the breakdown by input method?

    It's Paladins Keyboard & Mouse Ranked Statistics if you mean that by input method.

    Yes, except the OP is gamepad. Is there the same info for that input method?



  • @Vaporized There is a Paladins Controller Ranked Statistics site. I just never used this till now. 🙂

    Seems more or less the same, on high ranks Viktor is even more popular. And his winrate is better. One of the best damage champs on controller.


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