my opinions



  • @roiwtto999
    Always with the wall peak..
    This is why one of my comments in teh other post was for them to separate the two modes, people get 3rd person back, you get a mode without it to avoid wall peaking, everyone wins.
    As it stands the playerbase numbers are not good. Steam alone had a total of 10k, that is it. When 3rd person was still it it had around 15k-18k. Numbers don't lie.

    However i also agree that the kill cam was another removal that made zero sense and should also return.



  • @VorxDargo Yeah, I don't get why people cared about the corner peeking crap. Like, it was only available in casual, it wasn't there for ranked. The problem is that people put too much emphasis on a win in casual games to the point that it's cheating to use 3rd person. Sure I like to win as well, but I also like to bullshit around and look at my lovely skins. I paid for them, so I should at least be able to enjoy them while in a casual match.


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    @HeartQueen said in my opinions:

    @VorxDargo Yeah, I don't get why people cared about the corner peeking crap. Like, it was only available in casual, it wasn't there for ranked. The problem is that people put too much emphasis on a win in casual games to the point that it's cheating to use 3rd person. Sure I like to win as well, but I also like to bullshit around and look at my lovely skins. I paid for them, so I should at least be able to enjoy them while in a casual match.

    There's this thing called emotes that allows you to do literally all of that while not forcing third person and not giving you an absurd advantage because you actually have to STOP to do it.



  • @Dusklicious
    Yet if they were removed even people lobbing against 3rd person would be up in arms.



  • @Dusklicious The 3rd person peeking isn't in ranked, which is the only mode that people should really take 100% serious.

    I'm going to be honest and say that I don't have a roaming emote for Lian. Therefore, I need to keep doing it just to look at something I paid for. It seems kind of messed up to remove it just because a few people took casual matches way too serious.


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    @HeartQueen said in my opinions:

    @Dusklicious The 3rd person peeking isn't in ranked, which is the only mode that people should really take 100% serious.

    I'm going to be honest and say that I don't have a roaming emote for Lian. Therefore, I need to keep doing it just to look at something I paid for. It seems kind of messed up to remove it just because a few people took casual matches way too serious.

    That's fair. 3rd person FOR SURE shouldn't be in ranked. Though I think you can still emote in ranked games, so...

    I know you play on console, but there's this thing called the camera that you can rotate so you can see it all. Shocking, right? And even then you can even see it in the champions menu too, so... I don't think this is much of a valid point.



  • @VorxDargo People enjoy skins and they want to look at them for casual matches. That's the honest truth. People prefer fun game modes as well.

    Now, I do understand the frustration of going against a tryhard 5-stack who used corner peeking to their advantage. Which is why I preferred modes like End Times, Onslaught before they mixed it with King of the Hill, and even Test Maps. They still had tryhards, but way less. And they were basically modes that I just played to show off my skins and look at myself without having to sweat. I stopped playing Test Maps when I realized that even when I was just joking around, I was still stomping a bunch of noobs which just felt bad.



  • @Dusklicious
    And how is wall peaking a valid point after all these years despite it being proven less viable time and again?

    In a game like this wall peaking is the last thing someone with half a brain should do, you have weapons that lob stuff that bounce off walls, characters that teleport, characters that revive and make a nuke attack, characters that can see through walls, and even one who can go immortal for a bit.

    In a game like this, with all the powers and stuff wall peaking is the last thing on people's minds.



  • @Dusklicious The problem with ranked is that you can use emotes to corner peek. In competitive matches, you're not allowed to use emotes in order to gain an advantage. I think that needs to apply to ranked matches as well. And they need to stop making pay to win skins and pay to lose skins. If a skin is banned from the competitive e-scene along with certain weapons, that's a pay to win skin/weapon. If something is a pay to win skin/weapon, why are we allowed to use them in ranked games? I think that needs to be looked at more than the use of 3rd person in casual modes. And, sure some people used 3rd person peeking. At the same time, let's be honest here. Most people who used 3rd person in casuals, were literally using it to see Skye's butt as she runs, not to have an advantage.



  • @HeartQueen
    Like my other post i just made wall peaking is a death wish in this game.
    But yeah if anything they should bring 3rd person back for the mobile stuff like escort and all since your always moving.
    Thous it makes the wall peak argument invalid. Over all the fact is since they removed it the player base has dropped no one can deny this. Using just steam the numbers went from around 15k-20k average to just barely 10k average. Consoles are not much better.

    It was a bad decision and if not reversed soon the life of this game may be shorted then we originally thought.


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  • @roiwtto999
    I already know what that link is about without clicking, same as you always use. Something about wall peaking. You are a broken record i swear.


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    @VorxDargo suuuuure but look on haw he look on right side of the view easy too extra area than 1st person


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    @roiwtto999 said in my opinions:

    loop on 1st person and 3rd person view

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=RJVF20xt-bA&feature=emb_title

    Looks fair to me. /s


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    @Dusklicious haw is that fair



  • @roiwtto999
    Please re-read my post i did a few post up as to why wall peaking is useless in this game.


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    @roiwtto999 said in my opinions:

    @Dusklicious haw is that fair

    I'm not sure if you know this but I was being sarcastic.

    Of course having visibility and simultaneously being able to shoot through a corner is unfair.


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    @VorxDargo wall peeking is useless........riiiiiiight and get killed on a ambush peeking player



  • @roiwtto999 But bro, it was only available in casual matches. Something that people shouldn't be up in arms about winning or losing. Besides, do you really think the average playerbase would use that when in 3rd person? Most people are going in third party to look at Cassie's boobs, to look at Skye's butt, or to ogle Zhin/Lex's muscles in their shirtless skins. People look too deep into 3rd person usage.

    The problem is that people take casual matches too seriously. They treat it like ranked, which is why they think that most people are using 3rd person to corner peek or to gain an advantage.


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    @roiwtto999 said in my opinions:

    @VorxDargo wall peeking is useless........riiiiiiight and get killed on a ambush peeking player

    Emote Wall-peeking is used by almost every high level streamer I've seen, so saying it's useless is laughable at best.

    @HeartQueen Oh it isn't only in casual either. You can emote wall-peek in ranked too. It's just more limited in ranked I think.


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