How to Seris


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    So hello everyone, I was thinking it was about time I write an other guide, especially since not many people are doing it, and I felt like Seris is played a lot but not many people know how to play her efficiently, so here I am writing this

    however this guide is designed for advanced players knowing how to position, timings, and so on...
    I mainly made it for players who'd like to be able to play seris in high elo (cause we don't see her a lot starting from P1)

    Most players think of Seris as a healbot, well that's far from being true, I'd even say she is the most aggressive support after grohk and pip

    let's start with the talent section

    • Mortal Reach : the one played by almost everyone, I totally hate it, that is the thing making Seris a healbot, the range increase is nice, the heal duration isn't, countered by caut way too much, and totally useless to heal players who backed up and cleaned caut already, to me this talent is completely useless

    • Agony : this one can come in handy against flanks, and gives Seris CC she, beside her ult, doesn't have, so yeah it's pretty good, the only drawback and why I don't use it? it gets countered by resilience, I really think talents you can just ignore with an item are bad talents

    • Soul Collector : that's the one talent I use all the time, while it's a bit hard when you don't have your stacks, it's pretty easy to get them, and it transforms Seris into a very aggressive support, you don't fear flanks at all since you have 3k hp, increased damage, your shadow travel, and self heal, you can healp the team by damaging everyone you see and it will matter thanks to the dmg buff Soul Collector provides

    Now let's move on to loadouts
    I won't talk about all these loadouts for bot healing with self heal when you heal others, cause I ain't a bot healer and anyway bothealing is bad

    my main loadout is a very aggressive one, and I'll talk about gameplay at the same time since the two are linked

    Soul forge - 4 : well obviously you wanna reduce your healing cd, but while many told me that I have to put 5points in it, it's totally useless to me, 4 is just what's needed,5 is for bot healers, but why is 4 points enough? simply because you wanna shoot at people, with 5points you don't have time to do dmg, like even if I had this card at 5, I wouldn't use that extra 0.5sec, plus considering the caut, you don't want to be healing people under caut if you don't need to, doing dmg while they are cleaning caut is way more efficient since you'll heal more even i you heal 0.5sec later

    Veil - 3/4 : well it's like one of the card you gotta use on Seris no matter what, usually it's played at lvl 3, but I use 4 because I find it more convenient, you can't really play without this card since you would die before shadow travel's cast ends most of the time

    Dark Whisper - 3/4 : it goes along veil to prevent you from dying after shadow travel, cause you would be going faster than the enemy trying to kill you most of the time

    Fade to Black - 2 : obviously important so you have shadow travel available when you need it, only lvl 2 for the simple reason more lvls into it would be overkill, I started at lvl 4 and ended up never using the extra lvls at all, so I lowered it to put more lvls into more important stuff

    Spirit Leech - 2 : most would say it's an useless card, but for only 2points, you don't have to reload at all, like you will never reload as long as you heal, I use this card simply because with the heal cd and duration, you can empty almost all your shots while you're on cd, then heal once, and you're full ammo again, so basically while you ain't healing, you are only damaging or escaping, which allows for tons more damage

    Then some tips and tricks,

    when you need to heal yourself, damage some people, use shadow travel if you can't clean the caut, then explode your charges to heal, shadow travel cleans all the caut, while you fight before exploding charges you should always use shadow travel for a second

    healing people under caut 3 is useless, like really, heal the one without caut on him, if all are under caut, heal the one who will survive thanks to your heal, not the one who's gonna die anyway

    shadow travel can allow you to finish off targets, thanks to the speed boost, it's also great to shadow travel, rush behind enemies and ult them to hell

    your ult is a good way to build your stacks up after you die

    you can send you ult in the air to delay it but it's not recommended as good players will then avoid it

    you can bounce your ult onto walls, this can surprise players a lot

    Oh and for those interested I'm gonna share my dmg Seris and flank Seris loadouts

    Dark Whisper and Veil are exactly the same in my dps loadout
    I use Ebon Dynamo 5, it seems bad cause it's only ammo, but like it allows me to do way more damage overall
    the 2 last cards are bit up to you
    although I don't use this deck much
    I have a Stun deck also that I never use because I don't like the stun, but like it's the same as my heal one except that you gotta put the cooldown reduction on stun in it

    so as I have been asked for it, the only scenario where I would be using my dps or stun deck would be a match where I won't be the main support, let's say my team got a jenos, then I would pick seris as a dmg, I'd use one of these 2 decks if my team picked a flank, and I would basically be the dmg, that situation is quite rare however

    but I have a different deck that I use more often, deck I use when my team as an other support and a dmg champ, and I'd play seris like a flank (careful here, I don't mean that I would rush enemy backline all game long, flanking is poking/doing damage, then when you see an opportunity rushing then getting out, which is possible for seris thanks to shadow travel)
    the deck is as follow :
    Veil - 5 : as said above, this deck is based on shadow travel, so it's quite obvious why I'm using Veil, 4 points would be enough but I find 5 more convenient
    Dark Whisper - 4 : once again very obvious, it allows you to rush in easily
    Fade to Black - 3/4 : you need this card to unsure you always have shadow travel available, would it be to escape or sneaking behind the enemy
    Soul Forge - 1/2 : this is a nice fill card since you are using fade to black
    last card is kinda up to you really

    of course this deck is using Soul Collector, you need that 3000 ish hp to be able to survive when going in enemy backline, and the increased damage is great so yeah use it

    That's it for now, I may write more tips later or even talk about some specific situations



  • @TangAce Nice Thanks!!! Seris is my Fav Champ ❤ I'll try this loadout can't wait for more Tips and Trick for Seris.



  • thanks @TangAce for the guide. I've gotten in a habit of spam-healing with seris which feels lame after a while so this has been helpful. I also imported your dps deck, can you give a brief explanation of some scenarios in which you decide to use this deck with seris? Thanks again, looking forward to updates and additional content from you!


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    @Swaftbelich
    here you go, added some stuff about my dps gameplay, kinda hard to explain how I play it tho



  • As someone who spent a lot (400h+) time on Seris, I've decided to skirm through your guide, and I have to say, this is guide is very, very bad. There are a lot of questionable choices, such as saying Mortal Reach is countered by caut and not the other way around, or picking Soul Forge 4, with explanation on both being "hurr dur im not healbot and caut exists", completely omitting the most important reason why you take SF to lvl 5/ pick Mortal Reach in first place. Veil lvl 4? Fade to black? You picked SF 4 and Spirit Leech 2 over SF 5 and SL 1, despite giving exactly same benefit you described, except with a lower heal cooldown.

    Then going to your tips you talk about things that are going to make people play seris worse, not better. Wasting your F to strip caut for you Q is veeeeery bad habbit, and it's even more difficult to break it. Telling support players to finish kills (which is already pretty bad thing to do as support) by using their 14 sec CD escape ability is just beyond me. How are you gonna retreat after that killing blow? Then there's you saying that a good way to use your ult is to F behind enemies and ult them. That is not a good way to use your ult, that's a good way to obtain second butthole, because competent team will easily hear your F and counter with shields or ults, while you're in the worst position ever.

    I could go on and on, but I think I've already made my point. I am very curious how much time have you invested in Seris, because most of what you are describing are very rookie/intermediate choices that don't win support games at all.

    This guide needs a lot of help to make it feel a lot like an actual one, there's a lot missing, most importantly, I can't find anything about itemization. I can't stand people who still think Chronos is the best Seris item, and this thread just isn't going to guide them in better direction.

    I know this whole post I just made seems like a bash on your thread, and it kinda is, and has to be, because a bad guide is worse than not having a guide at all.

    Personally, I've been thinking about making Seris guide myself (but I need to know if there's a character limit for posts and if i can post gifs as well), but since there's one already here - that is, your guide - I hoped that with a couple of fixes to it I don't have to create one.

    couple hundreds...


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    @TTraw
    okay just tell me at what elo you are playing? cause finishing kills as a support is good, helping your team making even more pressure is good

    I explained why I'm using SF 4 along with SL 2, if you can't understand how good it is it's not my fault

    breaking caut with your escape is pretty good, you always have your escape ready if you heal properly, you don't need it that much if you are positioning properly

    did I say to rush enemy back alone to get a kill? nah, but you can most of the time finish kills without putting you in a very bad position, especially if it's the enemy flank who came alone to kill you and is retreating alone, you can just rush him to finish him
    anyway you have 3k hp, you can be in a not so good position without too much problems

    your talking about a 14sec cooldown, but you forget that you have a card reducing the cooldown, if you're good you should have it on a 7sec cooldown easily

    earring shadow travel, yeah before it was easy, but now it's not as loud as it was, and half seris skins are bugged and don't have sound on it anyway
    using your ult like that is the best way to not fail it, because the enemy won't expect it, meaning you will be behind their shields and you will probably get more people in your ult, also you'll have a better view so you'll place your ult in a better position
    it's like the only way to almost never fail this ult
    coming back to shadow travel, if you ain't dumb you ain't gonna get close to someone so they can track you, just stay sneaky, you have increased speed so you can stay far from them even if it's a longer route

    I have some hours on Seris, not my most played, yet I have thousands of hours overall in this game, and if you play seris like any lambda person, she's unusable at high elo, however I manage to play it anyway, I will have lower healing than an other seris, probably, yet my 150k heal 150k damage will do more than my job

    by the way, rend soul is the best way to heal yourself, waiting out of combat is an option, but it means you ain't doing damage for that time

    also in most cases, if an enemy is flanking alone, he'll just die and you won't even have to use shadow travel, cause well you are supposed to have a team, you have 3k hp, you have damage high enough to kill him, and you can heal yourself
    like instead of using shadow travel to flee from that flank, you use it to clean caut, heal yourself and kill said flank
    and if the flank isn't alone it means 1 or 2 of your teammates are dead already and that you should just flee or die



  • @TangAce said in How to Seris:

    @TTraw
    okay just tell me at what elo you are playing? cause finishing kills as a support is good, helping your team making even more pressure is good

    Finishing kills is not bad, but your guide makes it sound like you need to chase people around, please reword it, this is a newbie guide after all.

    I explained why I'm using SF 4 along with SL 2, if you can't understand how good it is it's not my fault

    With SF 5 you can shoot 5 times between heals, and one heal even without mortal reach will give you 6 ammo on cast just on SL 1. So you're getting the same effect, but also get more healing CD reduction on top of that. This is a bad card optimization on your part.

    breaking caut with your escape is pretty good, you always have your escape ready if you heal properly, you don't need it that much if you are positioning properly

    Breaking caut is nice, but since you didn't talk about the ability in depth at all, your way of wording can propose that F into Q is your stable go-to combo. Which is almost never optimal.

    did I say to rush enemy back alone to get a kill? nah, but you can most of the time finish kills without putting you in a very bad position, especially if it's the enemy flank who came alone to kill you and is retreating alone, you can just rush him to finish him

    Your wording make it sound like that, this is a newbie guide, so people may get bad suggestions.

    your talking about a 14sec cooldown, but you forget that you have a card reducing the cooldown, if you're good you should have it on a 7sec cooldown easily

    Which is the first F card you remove from the deck once you get better at using Seris to take more important cards for your team.

    earring shadow travel, yeah before it was easy, but now it's not as loud as it was, and half seris skins are bugged and don't have sound on it anyway

    I use default skin, as most newbies will do, and it's pretty loud. Your argument of "other skins are bugged" is really inappropriate for a newcomer's guide...

    using your ult like that is the best way to not fail it, because the enemy won't expect it, meaning you will be behind their shields and you will probably get more people in your ult, also you'll have a better view so you'll place your ult in a better position
    it's like the only way to almost never fail this ult

    Whether you ult from enemy back or front doesn't really matter, shooting from your backline can be as unpredictable if you know when enemy team goes on aggro. except shotting from backline is also safer...

    I have some hours on Seris, not my most played, yet I have thousands of hours overall in this game, and if you play seris like any lambda person, she's unusable at high elo, however I manage to play it anyway, I will have lower healing than an other seris, probably, yet my 150k heal 150k damage will do more than my job

    Wonderful. If we're showing off stats, then my fav stat of all time for me was ~130k dmg and 220k healing.

    by the way, rend soul is the best way to heal yourself, waiting out of combat is an option, but it means you ain't doing damage for that time

    Which is why you want to replace cards that buff your F for cards like self healing on right click, move speed on stack, etc, so that "out of combat doing onthing" never happens.

    Anyway, reading your response motivated me enough to make my own guide for her character. If you don't mind that.

    I just need to know if 1. there's any character limit and 2. if I can post multiple images, gifs and videos.


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    @TTraw

    so you'd rather heal someone with 90% caut than damaging? like really what's the point of a 2sec cd if it doesn't heal, yeah you can do what you say, but 99% of the time I won't use that 0.5sec you gain simply because the whole team is under caut

    F into Q is my go to combo, I always use it if I need healing, only is I don't have rend soul available I'm gonna wait passive healing if I'm really low, If I'm like 2k hp I'm just gonna wait rend soul, of course not having caut on me is always better, but sometimes you have to shadow if you are in a fight or about to die just to be able to heal yourself

    you shouldn't remove said card, it is the best fill up card possible, using it at 5 points is indeed a waste, but 1-2 point gives so much value for a fill up card, you get shadow available every 2 heal, considering cd, heal cd, heal duration and the card itself, you don't need more than this and you can use shadow more often

    enemy going aggro? yeah I assume you're on lower elo, if the enemy can go aggro it means your team lost 1 or 2 people already and so you ain't gonna ult in a 3v5 really, ulting from backline is the best way to waste it

    not showing stats, I was showing my average stats for a 15min game, my best stats is around 300k dmg for 200k heal in 20min ish, with a total garbage team since I lost this game with every single top stats in the match (except obj since we lost)

    self healing when you heal is so bad, it's just slow, you have 3k hp, it's just a waste in cards, rend soul full heal me every 10sec or so, while this card would full heal me every 15-20sec considering I don't have caut on me, the bigger difference is in the fact that one is a burst heal you can use after shadow travel while the other is just passive healing, I never need that card, like never, it's 3-5 points wasted in something very inefficient

    I don't really mind but I feel like it gonna end up as a worse version of this one
    there is a limit and you can post multiple images and stuff

    have you ever tried my stuff here? of course you need some game knowledge
    also it's not really a beginner guide, it's rather advanced, I want people to go from bot healing seris to op seris, and it requires some knowledge such as cd and timing, like if for exemple you see nando ulting, you gotta know the timing for your own ult after his, no newbie would be able to play like that, you gotta know positioning and stuff, like where you can extend at max without dying and so on



  • @TangAce That 0.5 sec cd allows you to go to other, more important target faster. That's the point of going lvl 5. Her healing output is fine even with SF 3.

    Anyway, thanks for advices and information. Is there a limit on how many gifs/images I can post?


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    @TangAce When I play everyone is under some level of caut for almost the entire match.

    In the case of Seris there is the possibility the teammate will get off caut for a little bit during the heal cycle which you would likely miss out on if you had waited to start the cycle - This part is what makes Mortal Reach preferred for heal bot style. More chance of getting a decent heal in there.

    With supports that are burst heal in nature then the heal timing becomes more important.


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    @DaddyOoker

    true that Seris isn't burst, but if one doesn't have caut, 1sec is enough to full life damage and tanks if the later has rejuv, during afight, the moment I see someone without caut I would heal him if possible, until caut is applied again, mostly they have to clean caut for 1-2sec, which isn't hard, mortal reach isn't bad, but in the end it brings nothing more to seris, you become a bot heal who will lose when enemy team reach caut 3, seriously, do you see many Seris wining late game?

    Seris is considered bad, because of the way she's played by 99% of the playerbase, so probably it means bot healing simply doesn't work with her (with any support actually), if you look at stats she has the lowest winrate in higher elo, so one can assume it doesn't work, that's why I'm trying to bring something else to the table, to show that she can be played in a different way that does help to win


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    @TangAce

    No arguing that healing when they aren't under caut is the most efficient. I find it's just not realistic to expect it.

    Combining my two accounts to get more samples, I have an average match time of around 12 minutes for my 35 ranked Seris matches. 68% win rate. I'm 99% certain that all those matches are with Mortal Reach.

    Some of those wins are longer matches where multiple enemies had caut 3 online - I'm sure I'm not the only one. Some of the losses are for short matches. I can't say with any definitive proof if it would have been easier or harder with another talent for those longer matches. Strictly speaking for my tier... Most matches, a decent team is going to win before many enemies can get enough credits for caut 3 anyway.

    I can't say why she doesn't work well in high tiers but I would venture a guess that it's the slow traveling orbs. When I play SC, I normally don't do all that much more damage than I do with MR. Higher health is a definite plus. It's only when I have potato enemies that I notice a significant difference - because I can hit them easily.

    Not trying to discourage alternatives - just giving my input.



  • What is a healbot?



  • This thread is over A YEAR old.

    Damn, I was so obnoxious here.

    Also @Christlike healbot means all you do is heal and nothing else.



  • @TTraw Oh. Well I play a lot of Seris and if im going mortal reach my main priority are heals. I think I could be considered healbotish at times but her heal is a 2 second cool down lol. And hits the whole group.. Soul collector is when I want to rekt it.

    I Really do think that that's a bad explanation for a strategy. The OP wasnt really making the point it seemed that healboting is inefficient but that being perceived as one is bad... I get you want to lay spread coverage with healing Seris. Why I run Soul leech 2. But I also run Soul forge 5 and heal without excuse or hesitation as much as I can.

    I think also soul forge might have been different when this guide was made.



  • @Christlike said in How to Seris:

    Soul forge 5

    Don't use Soul Forge. It only adds 3units aoe range per level, making it one of least effective cards in her arsenal.

    I am eagerly waiting for this thread to be locked due to 1 year necro lol.



  • @TTraw every thread in this forum is at least a year old.



  • @Christlike I mean this one is cleeaaarly outdated. Seris got tons of changes in Season 3 which this thread doesn't account for. If you wanna learn sth then go to mine instead, I tend to update it quite regularly.


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