Torv is too much of a clutch pocket strategy, that is something we all agree.
Torvald has a range of problems that are hard to sumerize as a whole.

Torvalds whole personal barrier bot ordeal is somewhat debatable...
In essence, torvald a personal barrier tank,
I am currently happy with the performace of the ally shielding, having a potential 3-5s personal shield on a potential 5s CD is pretty solid reactive damage mitigation for the team. Its current power as a talent forces the enemy to have a strategy in dealing with barriers...
Personally I am not the biggest fan of damage amp shield being used as its values were overtoned in combination with other damage amps...
But this is all he has got...

The rest of his kit is out matched by other characters just walking up to him and throwing him around when his nullify is down...
His personal durability is pretty average considering his lack of mobility.
He is weak to many abilities with nothing to do anything about it.
He has no CC immunity during ult or recharge... he cannot stop himself from being a free pick once exposed.

You can begin to see why torv considered a shoddy barrier support instead of a tank, when his shield application on an ally is stronger and more consistant then the matainance of his own.

Torvalds recharge is the weakest element of his kit right now...Your barrier can be dropped in 1 attack, while your only base option to regenerate it is backed by a 13-15s CD... and after recharge was gutted the way it was, being a 2.1k -2.6K shield HP restore that caps at 1.8k that only lasts a sec... its not a great ability as a survival tool vs heavy wrecker and fails to make up for the lack of mobility and only seves to restore the half of your HP total while under pressure.... it used to be great at semi damage denial for a duration, sure it was counterable with hard CC, but now it just feels too easy to deny torvalds shield in general.

Your most reactive way restore the shield otherwise is to protect allies with barrier...
Enforcing the pocket strat for maximum durability with your own barrier...

What would really help Torvald?
Some mechanics to improve the consistancy and strength of good shield matainence.
And give Torvald more standing power based dynamic changes to the game.

Without really thinking about cards Dynamics such as...

• Torvald peronal Shield Regenerates out of combat.
• Personal shields deny further cauterise application until depleted.
• Torvald's personal shield could be overcharged, but should deplete slowly until reaching its normal max threshold.

Small things like these would have a serious impact on torvald's overal tank strength.
Aside from staying power, his Control is fairly counterable unless Tovald or his enemy is willing to over expose themselves... Torvald needs more windows where he can expose himself, gaining the endurance to dive a target and tank damage when he needs to.

ALL I WANTED WAS ANOTHER CHAINGUNNER....
WHAT IS THIS....
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH FUN CRUSHING SKULLS...

THIS SCREAMS BARRIER TANK WITH SUPPORT SYNERGY...
FREAKING LOOK AT THAT BIG BOI HP POOL...
TAG TEAM DEAMON GROHK WITH ANTI CC.... insert minecraft hurtdamage.wav
All we need now is a demon ash or fernando skin for a hellfire barrier tank skin...

THEY FOUND A WAY TO MAKE SHELL SPIN MAKOA SORT OF BRUTAL... OK...

Aegis is only as counterable as your ability to use, abuse and maintain your shield HP....
Due to the existance of heat transfer giving you a shield you can move out of harms when under pressure and continue to gain last stand healing for as long as possible while being a hard to kill target makes Fern a big distraction factor...
Fern has way more agility then your common tank due to this...
Wrecker only makes Fernando faster with heat transfer...
And the shield lasing forever means it has to be broken when defending an ally...
Which means you can reliably use and abuse heat transfer for mobility....
Making Aegis a talent that allows Fern to advance multiple times without having limitations on duration...
Making it a mobility talent to Dimitri... not a shielding talent....
Lasting forever allows his shield out trade the duration of other shields... which is handy in areas with limited wrecker... even more important now it only lasts 8s...

Scorch was only viable for a time as it allowed fern reliably do massive damage to allow for eliminations to reset everything he had on Cooldown.. hot pursuit was viable as fern had such a big boost off of it thanks to its consistant application and uptime combined with incinerate... now it is jank garbage...
With such a low shield cooldown now, ferns scorch build is very different nowdays....
I think scorch needs another barrier tank shield to truly dominate with the sustain that it can bring when not under caut pressure.... otherwise he is pretty sideliner...
Or have personal shields block further cauterise application for duration to allow
fern to have a reliable decaut window he can attack in with his safe travel shield as well as his shield deactivated with fireball brand sustain attack....
Fernando could see the return of his fireball %50 cauterise added to Scorch.
As fireball stuggles to deal reliable ranged suppression as 400ish damage is nothing vs a snipers liferip considering fireball is an avoidable object.

Formidable is odd as you cannot build around it ideally....
It gives Fern some self sustain... but fern has heaps of self sustain if utilized properly... and only ever needs to be topped up.
I would rather see Fernando have some form of Ult Talent with a method of assisting Fernando's survivability to not draw upon healing resources of supports as hard in order to support aggessive fernando play.
Fern could have an ult talent that could continously restore his hp if left uncauterised...
More individual safety using ult, would allow more hostile aggressive plays from Fern while limiting his aegis shield push healing potential, and limiting his stack punishing from scorch. This way trying to pump fireball into many targets to farm ult will allow more playmaking power out of the ult.
I FEEL THIS WOULD BE THE MORE DEATHBALL STYLE OF FERNANDO when combined with an incresed ult charge rate mechanic or something.

His "gain healing from allies card..." I detest these cards as it enforces juggernaught heal dump support tactics without really helping the champion in his own kit other than an ult that already foces alot out of allies enough.
Fern is a character that could potentially gain something much better in place of this... but it is there because supports like jenos exist with fairly weak heal per sec outputs that force fernando into taking it or big heal supports like furia, pip, grohk that make a pretty strong pocket tag team.. personally Last Stand does more for me, but it has its value for overall consistancy.... personally I do not think cards should be skewed to invest in the potential of allies.

I'd Rather have a personal shield when Fernando gets low on hp with a CD attached to it... getting another shield with safe travel and all the charge resets you can get with your shield heat transfer and elims but with a fallback shield to give you a bit more time to bide for one of yout abilities.... that would make a very strong personal shield dive champ against champions without wrecker.

Am I the only one who seems to like using Tremors over Cripple field....

Everyone else trembles when seeing it... why?
Is it that big brain to use correctly?
Why do I pick one talent, only for a team who forced me to play this class, to rant and harass me about it.
Fucking plebs.

Denying enemy of shielding, corridors, chokes, retreat... even healing...
While handing your team all the advantages
Seperating the enemy from the team, owning an environmental foothold in your enemy side of the field,
All with having access to high mobility at the expence of durability...
Your durability comes from all the decaut windows you can make with your wall and positioning.

Inara is amazing for a high mobility deathball on certain maps.
I like playing Flank Inara as your wall placement can severly hinder a team by limiting where they can move.

Luna cannot travel through walls to stun people.
It makes an attempt... Fails..
Stun goes on CD.

I found this out playing Tyra thinking I was going to be mad countered by it...
Yes it mad counters Tyra, Io can mess up Tyra...

How is having a reduced CD and infinite Shield not worth it, when you can pocket building, corridor & fights with more up time, need less time needed in immortal to bide time to regain shield
Thanks to the Shield CD rework, Fernando only needs 1 elimination for a sizable chunk of his shield to reset instead of its former 2 elims to reset.
This has given Fernando a heap of staying power, diving power, and a load of aggression potential with allies.

I had an issue with the former shield CD as it was too long to be profitable, often saying it needed CC immunity for it to be viable.
However with the recent CD change, offencive use of shield is more viable the ever.

Formidible is Trash... do not bother defending it...
By design it is too inconsistant self sustain and forces a HP management style of play which I have never been able to work with, I prefer last stand and constant shield up time with heat transfer to stop people from trying to destroy the shield by pocketing an ally with firepower.

You cannot really talk about Fernando needing more ammo through cards.
He really has enough with his ammo regen... I barely feel like Fern lacks any firepower other than dps, which is kind of fine considering its foe piercing and burning features...

Looks that Kill is needed on a small level at best anyway...
The second fernando is out of fuel, waiting 0.5s and timing with activating fireball will start the recharge, hitting with fireball will restore a chunk, bam fireball reload, another 3s of sustained lance fire... combine with incinerate for infinite ammo...
Or you can just shield for a bit... drop shield, kill target, reset shield for a reload...

I just would like an option in menu to skip it from happening...
Skipping it at any point is also sort of viable for player flow...
I find that potg can create buggs and issues returning to menu...

Cassie was able to press ult and get a free window of immunity vs inara ult, cripples, fear, grumpy bomb and king bomb makoa hooks and an many contol factors...
In a 1v1 sense this was fucked....
Just pocket cassie and she can dive and waste players contol abilities while the enemy get a massive reveal advantage... and it becomes very hard to kill cassie amongst a reveal deathball.... it was oppressive as to any support who needed a control option to fight cassie, and cassie had a massive upper hand with cc immunity and target reveal.

Lian... was almost undivable in a 1v1 sense let alone in a team, her enlightenment was just so much personal armour. Now if you can just out right win trades with just damage and do nothing to zone the tanks back seriously, how are you a damage other then putting the enemy on the 4v5 Disadvantage... I have seen lians just walk up to the enemy start of round with every button spam into ult, prompting the only counter to be hard CC like polymorph...
Least this way she is no longer able to spam 1 dash and gain a damage immunity ult and frag a target when combined with an ally damage.

These champs to me still fell like pretty poor designs of damage, but they both have the potential to be better in other areas...

If his second chance gets reduced from 5 to 4s... his self rewind duetation card would need to be buffed accordingly to reach 6s...

Personally I think his secondchance and setback could have a threshold on player hp value give and take....
Resetting players after a powerplay....egh it hurts...I like this dynamic alot...But..

With the potential to remove and restore a 3k HP...
Stunlocking the enemy, and giving yourself a decaut window...
IF Atlas comes off as too tanky or his hp synergy denial in a 1v1 sense is potentially too annoying....
Putting a threshold of like %80 on it would be viable to not allow the ability to be the primary form of self healing when combined with cards...

As mentioned...
His healing in other areas is pretty lacking...
I detest healing from ally cards... it sort of forces this overtoned heal juggernaught from healer strats...

His fire arm.... kek...
Could have a damage reduction for a faster windup time...
But after getting used to it... I feel its actually pretty balenced as it is...
It just sucks vs high mobility... which is fine...

His shield feels pretty last second with its design and cards to me....
I like the exile wall as a dynamic, but the size and shape of the big rectangle is kind of last second... by design... I wish it was more tower shield like, being tall, but narrow... with angled edges... being psudo wide with the talent.
Its default design leaves a great deal of flaws in his kit when operating on ramps and high grounds, prompting you to use movemnt to get the the correct position to place the shield...

The big shield is.... too much...
Yes it is mitigated by the big CD and no reset dynamics... it can turn the tide of fights when combined team play with long range and area denial... but woah... it throws off your CD management timing without a reset dynamic, leaving you open as a trade off...
It cannot gain a reset dynamic as it is a powerful shield...
But giving me a +20s ability with no cd reset other than chronos is slow...
But I at least think hitting champion targets with fully charged shots could work to reduce shield CD by a fraction...
But I digress...
I like the shield dynamic... but its cover area and mitigation of power is questionable...

The infinity engine card is pretty useless... free ammo for a limited time is kind of pointless with a charge weapon...

Gaining hp after activating shield is... meh... considering cauterise... you have to already cleanse it to gain the most reward... but you have a few of those in a 1v1 fight... the reward is just not worth the investment unless you are going with some jank life rip build after setback or something idk... but it can be worthwhile sustain with other options.
honestly I would like a self shield when activating shield to counter dive through the shield for a brief time...

Another issue I am having, understanding the use of the card lessons of the past, outside of deja vu.. its shield is weak, and you are already denying the enemy of hitting you with setback... without deja vu, it does nothing...

Those are my current issues with atlas as of now at least....

@Dusklicious

A lot of people pick tinkerin...
They do really bad with it.. but they think it is op...
It costs them games...
I like fortify...
People say its crap.... it annoys me... idk why?

I play differently.. i have a fun time.
I think turrets sustain synergy with fortify shields + elim resets from working with the team is stronk vs low dps frontlines and single target damage who have to invest in dozer..
Barik is a solid cauterise sniper with his shot gun and barrier...