@ZenoSamaV1 I see him as more of an off-point damage dealer tank to annoy others. He can't really do a thing against those who have CC. Heck I played Damba and controlled him throughout the entire match. If he is an unexpected pick down the line he could be strong, but since he is new everyone picks what is useful against him.

@JoeTheMoonwalker Will it do less damage or will it do none and just have a lesser knockback if it isnt fully wound up

@JoeTheMoonwalker Yeah i feel like that would be a fairly healthy amount, though whats the distance required for a full dmg trample

@SoraFromHeaven Id still say it is based on atk frequency. Because if they attack as fast as he can id say reduce the dmg, but if their atk is slower increase. Just some ideas.

@JoeTheMoonwalker How far would the knockback be? And will it be possible to knock someone if done correctly?

@SoraFromHeaven 100% might be too much. 75% should be the cap. Though maybe 100% if there is an attack frequency. Itd be a 11v5 if it made 5 of himm Though if you are doing it more damage, side grade it with health decrease to the ancestrals ult.

@JoeTheMoonwalker by talent i mean for the lmb main atk those were supposed to be two seperate paragraphs

Maybe gibe the ult a time lomit and less health, I can think of many situations to use this in. Or make the rider and horse have seperate healths. It sounds like itd be possible to cirner a champion and trample them repeatedly.

PHG should do 200 more dmg for its cooldown
Maybe for a talent it shoukd do less damage but should be able to pull in people, stronger when its closer.

Thx you

@SoraFromHeaven Perhaps you should also add the ability for the ult so that when you press the button again you can switch with one taht you are looking in the direction of. 8s might be too short for the distance they'd have to travel, as well as how little health they have. It seems that he is also unable to counter flying types like Willo or Drogoz.

@JoeTheMoonwalker Well I do feel it makes more sense, especially since it's based off the Headless Horseman, but what's the duration of the ult, taht way I can figure what his health should be. And will he generate that health as he is winding up the ult, or will it appear as soon as the horse does? As for the pumpkin head guy talent, will it cause the explosion at the head or where he is teleporting from? I say you should be able to explode it whenever, so say someone is around the corner you can ricochet off a wall and attack. LMB can have cards for either increased range or decreased based on where you want the whirlwind to stop. If slow reaches 100%, I feel it should root them and not be a stun.