None of this is good.
Zhin is over performing!
They nerf him and you want to buff him before the nerf even goes live?
More damage... Nope
Retaliation return... Nope
Changing his ult to be risk free... Nope
None of these ideas are remotly even on the table for Evil Mojo...
It takea quite a bit for them to revert a nerf.
Im suprised they gave Ash her damage back. Retaliation will never return because having a flank that can be the ultimate two second shield was just broken as shit for a skill with that much up time. It doing damgage on top of that was just crazy good.
Zhin should have 50% damage reduction in ult for base kit.
Change smolder legendary to smolder teleports zhin 25 units up and resets whirl.. But no longer puts him in smoke form.
Change Ultimate legendary to zhin can ult at 50% but it does two swings for 500 each.
I actually sort of like your ideas here.
I don't think Zhin needs more damage in his base kit. His damage is currently enough in my opinion.
I think retaliation should replace guillotine, but a nerfed version. It doesn't need the time increase, but the damage increase is fine. Have counter deal 50% more damage.
His ult doesn't need to be risk free. Zhin has so much survivability in his base kit, his ult being risky isn't too bad.
I agree with your proposed changes. He shouldn't be immune from damage during his ult or completely safe, but 50% damage reduction is fair. I would actually replace Yomi with the talent that gives Zhin optional vertical mobility with whirl. Like Whirl does only 200 damage, but you get 2 consecutive uses of it, and you have the option to travel vertically/diagonally.
I'm personally not a fan of ult talents though. The only exception is Evie because she can only deal damage with her base ability, and with her ult.
@IIMirage99II Oooo you sound constructive and open minded. My kind of guy.
Zhin in Season 2 used to be a somewhat viable flanker with the capability of his Yomi weapon, dealing both AoE damage, and direct damage in one in hand weapon.
Now, Zhin can access that same Yomi while still being able to use two of his other somewhat underrated talents in Season 2.
This would just straight out break him.
While I am all in for Yomi rework so that talent doesn't become useless, Zhin has 2 viable talents now, and despite the nerfs, he's still gonna be in a good spot because of how powerful and fast the burst in his Guillotine is, his survivability is, and his burst mobility is with proper cards in his deck.
I don't like a single thing you mentioned because he just received a hell of a good rework, and this would just break him.
I wouldn't way completely viable. He had no vertical mobility, which rendered him useless on certain maps. I think he just needs optional mobility in his kit, and he'll be good. No need for extra damage in his base kit, and I despise ult talents and flanks having tank busting talents. Flanks shouldn't bust tanks.