Posts made by LeslieShoemaker

@Conrad_Max Lore can give soul, some depth and personality to the characters, same what the chatting and interactive voice lines are doing. Of course it is not essential, but can give the game some plus flavour and maybe can attract new players.

I am speaking for myself, but sometimes the only thing that keeps me at the game and the community are the characters and the lore potential. I love interesting designs, world settings, stories and fantasy novels. And looking at how poorly EM deals with it can bother me. I didn't need a whole story, including every single character, where everyone is connected to the others, just some independent backstories connection 2-4 characters. But EM chose the other way, with a big story. I said okay, this still can be good... but it isn't.

Again, it has no effect on the gameplay, it gives nothing and takes nothing... but if they do something, they should put some effort into that, because they are basicly doing nothing with the lore. And this can really displease the people who cares about the lore.

@TangAce thank you

@TangAce Why did Buck betray Zhin? And why was he a TH member?

@AzrielM Hiearchy between abyssal characters are unknown. We only know that Seris convinced Knife(or Knaifu) to release Raum.

@a_a Fallen Androxus and Pyre Warrior Drogoz aren't female, so nope.

@TangAce I meant that only SD and Bazaar are tied to Io, the other maps where a moon-symbol is aren't. Sorry for my poor english.

When Stone Keep was made they didn't think to the lore at all. We know nothing about it. What is it, where is it, what was its purpose before it became ruined. The first map that had a slight connection with a character was Brightmarsh, but that one was just a bit. Only Archives was the first heavily lore-inspired map. They think about the lore only now, after Archives.

Honestly, I don't trust in bits said in streams, but aren't written to anywhere. To me it means that they don't care about it, but mention it in streams to make the fans happy. Maybe I would like the info, but telling it as a side-note of a side-note...blehhh. Like Nando is gay. They could confirm it by telling a story about it, and involve the info, but nope, it was like "hmpfhmpfhmpf Nando is gay (be happy with it)".
Also I don't watch hours lon stream for one-lines, so I know nothing about these infos.

@Gao-Shun I meant that because nothing is written, every symbols can mean anything, from a random ornament, to a emblem of someone, or a symbol from an old story. You can make whatever you want with these elements. But in the same time, the statues in Bazaar, or the sign of the Paladins/Magistrate, the pheonyx of Aico are set in stone. You can't change the meaning of them.

I don't think the moon symbols out of Bazaar or SD tie with Io at all. There are totally different nations with different folklore. Yes, they made symbols of the Moon, but that doesn't mean that they worshipped Io. You can find symbols of the Sun from the greeks to the chinese, but they didn't worshipped Ra.

Also, in Dark Souls everything is put there with purpose, after a looong time of worldbuilding. In Paladins everything is put there because it looks nice, cool or edgy (khmRaumkhm).

@TangAce What's the deal with the Ska'adrins and Makoa? That moon symbol doesn't mean anything. Why is PC in an island with with JF? And to me those bird are very different. Nothing is explained what is it, why is it there, a story behind them, nothing. Even the new ones aren't fully explained.

@TangAce Why are they tied to the lore?

@Gao-Shun
To be honest, I don't think any maps before Magistrate's archives has any "written" lore right now. There are only slight connections between pre-lore maps and characters/nations/races. Those symbols or objects can be anything. You can give them special role, but I don't thin EM has done it yet. Maybe later.

@Dusklicious I don't think that it is that stupid. Yeah, actually nothing is explained, but it's the same with some other champs (Damba, Nando, Cassie etc). About his connection with Lex, well, I see some potential in it and I'm going to write my theories about them.

Also, what changed about Furia and Seris? Because from what I see at the Paladins gamepedia and the PTS, it's the same (or my english-reading is very bad)

@Dusklicious What's the problem with Andro's lore?

surprised pikachu face
Is there something new about Drogoz or Nando?

@TangAce I didn't download the PTS (neither the normal game), so can you tell me what are the updates?

@TangAce
We see him at Abby's capture, but we don't see him at the sacrifice, only the Magistrate guards.

Seris is an interesting "topic". In the trailer it is said that the Void was hungered for a body, then the Abyss was unleashed, and everything was destroyed. And about the lore note, I don't like to say that, but that is a disaster for me. Half of it is there only to explain her abilities. The teleporting and the sou collecting are okay, but the wibly wobly timey wimey is just not. More and more paradox, and makes her op lore-vise. And the healing is not consistent with the Abyss, bevause that is the tipe of deity that kill everyone who is useless, and don't bother with healing. So if I were there, I would rewrote that part (not the origin one, that is cool).
And for the origin: In my theory, when the Void possessed Abby, and the village was destroyed, the portal to the Abyss was closed. Everybody died there, except Seris, who woke up with full amnesia, and the first thing that she saw was the welcome table of the village (i think it was a town). She knows nothing about herself, so she wanders all over the realm. And while there is the pert of the void inside her, her body is not her puppet. She is an individual person, "made" by the void. A bit similar to Vision, who was a part of Ultron and JARVIS, but actually neither of them. So now she wanders and tries to discover her past and herself.

@TangAce

• Skye wants to be the closest person nex to Zhin (so he can be her puppet), but he has a very tight connection with Koga, so she had to remove him.

• I don't think that Torv is that kind of a person who would reanimate Terminus in this suffering way. And he uses different kinds of magic than what is used at Terminus.

• Which voice lines do you refer? Because as I see, it doesn't say that they were a couple.

• Yes, they are part of the lore, but I don't think that the void that's mentioned by Andro is the same as the Void - also the "darkness"==with the Darkness. And we didn't see that guy was there at the sacrifice (probably had some deal with Karne). But if Lex and Andro was sent there, they would stay there at the destruction, and it is canon that noone survived it.

• Where is it said that Seris is a vessel? (Also, what is a vessel? )

• It doen't prevent it, just I think it's better to make characters who answer a lot of questions, not just add someone and say that "well, yeah, here is she, she is with Blue/Red" and give us a tons of new questions but answer almost nothing. (Io was a decent character in this case, because she might give us the origin of the crystals and the broken moon - but Atlas and the whole time trave thing was unnecessary: has only one relation, gave us nothing that we didn't know (Jenos already foreshadowed us the Darkness), but even spoiled us that the Darkness is something alien tentacle parasite, that infect people. It would be a big shock to see that at first, but now we will say that "yeah and? we knew that". Plus gave us a paradoxon. Side note ends)
  So I think taking the place from a new character with a lot of connections with the others and connecting every recent relation to known characters is bad.

A very good chart, what programme did you use?
Also, my opinions about it:

• Koga probably wants to kill Skye too, because in my opinion she was the one who started the rumors.

• I don't think that Torvald was the one who re-animated Terminus. He is an archeologist + engineer. A scientist. For reassemble Terminus I think they need some magical rituals and stuff. Different thing.

• Maybe Terminus and Inara weren't in love. Maybe a brother-sister relation. Also, Terminus didn't die at 100%, he is somewhere inside the monster.

• The argument behind the Abyss-Andro-Seris triangle isn't enough for me. Those voice lines were made before they even thought about building a story behind the game. Andro mentions the void once, but also mentions the darkness 7 times, and one of the is "I am the darkness!". But I think we are sure about that he isn't connected to the Darkness. And when Seris talks to him she might refers to an event when Andro, after the curse, went to the Abyss. Plus, when the village of Seris has blown up, where was Lex, if Andro was there? They are partners, so they deal with cop stuff together. (I think abyssal sects are illegal in the Realm, so if all of the sudden a crack to the Abyss appears, the magistrate sends its best officers, so if Andro goes, Lex goes too. )

• Absolutely personal, but I don't like the Seris-Cassie and the Zhin-Lian relations, because they take away the chance of adding new characters. And the Seris-Cassie thing isn't 99% sure, just a theory. I know, Seris is the only oracle in the game, but it is only mentioned in her title, just like the godslayer in Andro's title.