@M3RC3N4RI0
Life like was good but the current life exchange is honestly her better healbot talent which could be the reason why they removed it. Cardio is still decent on high skill matches especially with the DR card on hustle, it helps him out late-caut and he can heal himself after cleansing caut which is one less person to worry about for the healer. That and the fact that his base kit is pretty good is another reason Cardio is decent at best. Skye isnt a bad character. She is only good in the right hands. She has a tiny skill floor but a huge skill ceiling. While using Debilitate, she cant flank and then becomes a dmg dealer in late game becuz of illuminate. Decrepify is a must pick in high ranks to get the most out of your dmg due to bad mobility. Id rather not talk about Prep cuz its not a card for non-skye players even if they are high in ranks. Can u tell me why u think skye is low tier? This thread is not about her so lets talk about it further in PM cuz this discussion could maybe derail the thread.

@HeartQueen
Some of what you said is true. I dont like picking non-healbot talent in ranked unless im playing seris, which is only becuz teams get tilted too much. But I do pick FL on her in casual. Her base healing could use a buff but its decent with the right playstyle. Viktor's other talents are viable with shrapnel being underrated or maybe overshadowed. Willo has nightshade as a viable choice, I prefer it on her becuz of deadzones speed card which gives me occasional flanking capabilities and the occasional 1000 dmg combo which can help me finish low hp players(it could use a small buff). Scorn is the card that needs a rework. Torvald needs a rework as well, but Skye is fine as she is right now after Decrepify's rework which made Preparation viable even in Ranked(EDIT: what she could use is a buff to any talent besides Debilitate), https://mypaladins.com/player/15336755/potatosnlper
Im only using my stats to prove my point on Skyes other talents becuz shes considered a troll pick without deb. This is all I have to say against some of your points on the champs you mentioned. But still some champs like Buck, Torvald need a kit rework while talents like Tremors and Bulk Up needs to be changed.

@HeartQueen As far as ive seen her healbot talent is also the one that ups her survivability and her dmg potential becuz of the self sustain io gets from luna using that card. Nothing else i have to say for now.

@HeartQueen replacing snow globe is a bad idea. Its the only viable card evie has besides wormhole. Over the moon is the card that either needs a rework or a buff in some way without one that has her 2 shotting snipers or supports. It might be counterable by blast shields but its still not too cheap but thats just my opinion.
And yes all champs should have 3 different talents with different playstyles.

@taikonaut said in The balance of Damage champions:

@ShogunPukin said in The balance of Damage champions:

Champion switching is an absolute cancer, one of the reasons I prefer paladins than overwatch but it could work as a game mode instead of the whole game.

By the way looks like there are only 3 champs for you (strix, cassie and lian) and you think them are the most difficult in the game but I have to inform you that like 1/2 of the flank roster, 1/3 of the frontline and support roster and 1/4 of the damage roster are more difficult than them. Aim doesn't mean skill and importance in the meta that's a dumb statement.

You are downvoted because almost no one agree with you, everyone is free on what to do their votes and if people from Hi Rez read this they can tell which opinion is more popular just like in reddit.

I don't know. TF2 and OW are both leagues more popular than Paladins and both have more casual format with champion switching and ability to exit the match. TF2 even has unlimited number of champions per team ie more than one person can play Soldier. I think both of those would do Paladins a great service by making the game more relaxed, accessible, and less rigidly structured. What is it you hate about champion switching? I'm assuming this is based off Overwatch as I haven't met anyone who complains about the lack of restriction in TF2.

Being able to have 2 characters playing the same champ would be 10x OP and busted. Imagine 5 skye players in one team for example, tanks and supports would just be insta-gibbed, illuminate wouldnt mean anything at that point and even 2 skye players in one team is enough to break the balance in a team fight without using debilitate. Thats one example of a 2 mirror champs that could melt out most comps. There are other examples of 2 mirror picked champs like 2 yings in one team with both of them using Resonance, 2 torvalds shielding 2 teammates at a time, 2 jenos players boosting 4 players the entire game, 2 tyra players spamming F and revealing 4/5 of the entire team etc.
EDIT: champion switching is a bad idea cuz when a player buys an item to counter Skye for example, and the skye player switches to something that doesnt use stealth, that would make the players items useless later on so im not fond of this idea.

This concept is really good. I dont know what to say about the io and canary ship. The ultimate was confusing me a bit but its ok. I think it either needs a tiny buff on range, or more detail like can players affected use their mobility skills while moving forward or does it cripple? And if Canary moves in another direction, will the enemy player still go the same direction or move towards her? Other than that, her base kit seems a bit op and strong enough that she doesnt need much loadout cards. Maybe nerf all her cooldowns a tiny bit and shift it to future cards.

This is a really good idea. Another thing id like to add is that skye or any other character with below 2000 HP should be put there to test certain combo's like maeves 2k dmg combo while using rogues gambit and many others to help get at using them at certain situations.

@AmmarBaagu
Yes this has been happening to me right at my 1st game after the pirate treasure update. Its frustating and i thought it was just me. My games goes from 60 ping to 156 ping capped for the entire game and occasionally raises to 200+ and then drops to 60 ms. It feels very unstable like there is a 0.2s delay when throwing smoke bomb or going stealth etc. I guess this should be in the bug report thread but i think it should count as gameplay feedback cuz its frustating to play the game around this issue.
*Edit: If you have this issue and you arent from the SEA servers then pls say so in this thread cuz i wanna know if this is only happening in SEA or all the servers.

I've been wanting to suggest buffs for certain Champions and Talents that could use a helping hand. Some of the changes in this thread like the one with Andro has been asked for, by the community ever since his Abyssal Touch has been nerfed to the ground. Note, this thread contains only buff suggestions, not nerfs to OP Characters and builds. Here are the Buff Suggestions:-

• Androxus:
  Nether Step Rework: Now has 3 seperate Dashes (5s cooldown each).
  Abyssal Touch Card Rework: Hitting Defiance reduces the cooldown of nether step by 10/20/30/40/50%.
• Furia Exterminate talent: The stun affect lasts a minumum of 1s.
• Inara Tremors talent: Now also has 2 charges.
• Jenos:
  The Power Cosmeum talent: The Grip lasts a minumum of 1s.
  Eclipse Card Rework: Increase the duration of void grip by 0.1/0.2/0.3/0.4/0.5s.
• Kinessa:
  Oppressor Mine Buff: Enemies who are in Combat status, now take an additinal 100 dmg when they are in the radius of the mines and take another 100 dmg when they leave the radius of the mines unless they destroy it. Re-entering the mines LoS will refresh this effect. This effect can stack with other mines. If the player is not in Combat Status, the enemy will not take dmg. (How it works- When enemies take dmg from any other source besides the mine which results in Combat Status, the mine will deal the 100 dmg. I think you get the gist).
  Eagle Eye Buff: Hitting a fully charged shot to the upper half of a champ will grant 5% extra ult charge and Headshots deal 25% increased dmg.
  *Skye:
  Preparation Nerf revert: Now resets upon elims.
  Thats about it so this thread will be edited later on to include other champs after some time.

@U1322134514
If you are having that many bad games as i used to for a while now then try turning off crossplay in control settings. It might help unless you already have it off.