@HeartQueen Does skye necessarily need true mobility to flank/get in the backline to do her job? She has a 7.5s stealth and can use speed buffs for that. Viktor doesn't have Skye's 7.5s invisibility when he runs around so he obviously can't get in the backline and try to flank like skye potentially can. If your change had her stealth duration reduced to 4s instead of 3 then I'd be on board although I'd prefer her hidden not being reworked. Also doesn't the "annoying" argument apply for over half the champions(Don't forget I did agree/propose reworking debilitate and poison bolts which are the most annoying thing about her atm)? A great maeve player can be a pain to deal with just like a good off tank and a great damage dealer. A buck with his massive sustain and DR bullying you imo is just as annoying if not more. Almost every flank is annoying to play against when used by a good player.
For low ranks, you can't just use them as a perfect argument anymore since the devs are planning to implement 3 ranked bans per team and low ranks can simply ban her.
About the DPS argument, sure, but DPS isn't the same as Time to kill. Like Andro viable talent has a dps of 1200 which is lower than skye, yes, but you can't react to the first 600 dmg bullet andro fires/ it doesn't have to be charged over 0.5s like kinessa. It is instant meaning he has a ttk of 1.5s for normal health pools meaning he can deal 1800 damage in 1 second(the same principle applies to maeve daggers) and his weapon has high range. Skye weapon has an average ttk of 1.7s which can be significantly affected by haven level 1 more so than Andro and her weapon doesn't even have 1/2 of his effective range. Skye at best, can only do 1430 dmg in 1 second(maeve does 1600 and can finish 2000 HP with an instant quick pounce so no she doesn't need 2s to kill skye).
" For her to have her current mobility, she would need more damage, which would make her annoying as fuck and Talus 2.0. "
R- we can just give her more speed and wall climb instead. I didn't exactly say her current mobility is good. And I disagree IF you think her current damage assuming poison bolts were to be reworked, is good enough to have her current mobility stay the exact same.

@HeartQueen Imo I think you underestimate movement speed buffs and I don't think the old devs were braindead for designing Skye except her poison bolts+ I was wrong to say her DPS without debilitate or %HP dmg is high when it definitely isn't.
In the old days, Skye had good mobility as she could have a total of 75% speed with hidden alone. She could get behind people with little to no effort and also the enemy would be unaware because y'know... she can go invisible. With the right loadout, she would get literal speed hacks when she got kills(106%+ speed to be exact(diminishing returns are also applied so 106% is accurate).
Assuming debilitate and poison bolts didn't have tank killing damage, Skye's weapon damage isn't high at all compared to other champs. Other damage dealers like viktor has higher weapon dps(1350 compared to skye's 1300) than her at base and also more range and HP. Andro has more burst and also very similar DPS to skye. A vanilla maeve not running cat burglar can just take away 1600 HP away from skye in a second because her daggers deal instant damage while also not having damage fall off at range. Without debilitate, she has no where near enough damage to compensate having low mobility.
If %HP dmg was removed from her kit there would no need to adjust her weapon DPS and we could just focus on how to buff mobility instead. A wall climb, reverting Smoke screen and giving her more speed buffs is what I suggest.
Oh and my reasoning for the 30% cauterise change on her poison bolts is to deal with pocket healing. Pocket healing is annoying and I think it should have more counters. Maybe if the anti heal didn't stack with the caut item, it would be balanced.

@HeartQueen I don't like your poison bolt rework. It's better off reworked but your version of it would make poison bolts too weak without your debilitate talent. Also, the whole point of poison effects is to apply debuffs or damage over time. Your optional 270 dmg weapon rework is interesting but I don't like the '130->100 dmg' change u made because her DPS is supposed to be very high. Skye's mobility is low, yes but that can be solved with a speed buff rather than reworking her entire kit. Two invisible abilities aren't necessarily redundant, skye can play around illuminate and her Q wasn't originally pure stealth.
This is what I'd suggest for skye-

• I would personally rework it to deal 75 dmg/s per bolt(225 dmg/s) and make it apply 30% cauterise for the same 4s duration.
• For her smoke screen, I would simply make it block LoS like it used to and revert the stealth change they made to compensate removing her vision blocking.
• For hidden, I'd simply give her back the 25% speed she used to have and go on from there without changing it's duration.
• I'd remove the damage fall off from her ult as it sometimes brings no value even when u hit 2 or more people with it.
  For talents,
• I'd replace debilitate with her old smoke & dagger talent that did 600 dmg and add a 2s CD reduction to compensate quick smoker nerf. The old talent complements her lack of dash mobility nicely.
• I'd buff Preparation by making it proc on assists and give it a new passive where increased movement speed no longer apply diminishing returns. With base kit 25% speed and a good speed build, this would enhance Skye's mobility to the level of a race car which is what she was before her speed got nerfed to the ground and she will no longer be punished when her kills get stolen.
  Finally, I'd give her new passives where-
• her out of combat regen cooldown is halved when she is invisible or is inside her smoke screen.
• Skye gets Koga's wall climb passive.
  I don't think Skye needs an entire kit rework with the exception of poison bolts. Just revert Smoke screen back to what it used to be and give her better movement speed buffs. Now that 6 ranked bans are confirmed to be coming in ranked, the "skye is too good in low ranks" excuse is no longer good enough especially since the tutorial sucks.

@Davidonio carry on 4 is too much. Lvl 1 is nice filler but running it higher than lvl 3 is overkill. Pursuit 3 is a useless card as ying clones outrun normal movement speed of others assuming they are not using movement abilities.
tangible 1 is fine. Harmony 5 is too much and it is only used when u are running resonance. Ephemeral at lvl 2 is not enough to bring noticeable value.
I recommend have rewind 1, and spring bloom at high level in every resonance build. spring bloom makes healing more consistent while also helping you win 1v1s in some situations. I have this card at level 5 in every build I use even focusing lens. Since you play Focusing Lens these are the cards that you should never have in your loadout- brittle, disappear, Harmony, pursuit, and fracture. I believe these cards bring 0 value to focusing lens and other than rewind lvl 1, no one really uses dimensional link cards on focusing lens. Hope this helped.

Not related to the topic but i would really like it if every champion had their own passives to better suit playstyles similar to octavia but those passives would only benefit 1 player. Octavia's passive abilities need massive tuning and are nowhere near balanced compared to the rest of her kit imo.

@KicsitCsicska silence blocks all abilities so yes it should. Else that wouldn't make sense

@TTraw fk I didn't think at all over the seris buffs. With rend soul at 5s CD, she is gonna get stacks insanely fast on soul collector and the sustain nerf on the q can be easily compensated by having essence rip as a filler card and with the AoE heal buff+ the cd reduction on her escape ability on top of that is overkill. What if the rend soul change was put in agony but the CD is at 7s instead of 5? All the other base kit changes should be undone.

@TTraw seris is gonna be insanely busted but I'll take it. The io nerf is bad but not that bad imo. Like she isnt helpless against flanks, she can still hard pocket people and stun through shields.

Tyra DR doesn't stack...I tried it in shooting range and it doesnt stack there but that was a long time ago so...maybe it was a bug that got fixed and the dr was supposed to stack.

@KicsitCsicska disagree. it's his most fun talent to use. u could instead buff his worse talents like buff crack shot so that it also reverts the fire rate nerf he is going to get next patch or anything that doesn't end up nerfing nocturnal. the speed nerf is good.